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Name: | Robert Hope Jr
(hoper58@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/8/2008 9:19:07 PM | | Subject: | $4 Million Dollers Extra for 2-3 | | | I can't believe that Michigan U had to pay West Virginia $4 Million Bucks in addition to RRods salary. That is a very costly win per dollar ratio --- Les is More | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Kim
(k@yhoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 12:09:20 PM | | Subject: | Hard to be a Michigan Fan | | | It is becoming increasingly more difficult to stay a Michigan fan, but I have to say that no matter how hard I try, I can't help it! It was extremely shady the way Rich was hired, and I believe that the players and we, the fans, are paying the price. Oh well, what are you going to do? Go Big Blue!!! | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Zone Five
(@zonefiveselected@gmail.com)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 4:41:03 PM | | Subject: | Fire Rich Rodriguez NOW | | | This is ridiculous. Michigan doesn't go through "rebuilding." The only real option right now is to FIRE Rodriguez and apologize to everyone for this fatal mistake. Toledo?!? YGTBFSM! | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Tony
(pac1500@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 4:57:21 PM | | Subject: | Why did they hire this guy? A USC assistant wouldn't have made all the changes to the offense | | | Why did we hire this guy?
A good coach or person is someone who's flexible.
If you don't have the right people for your system then you make adjustments for the people you have and you work with your tools "your strength." | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Dan Poole
(poole_dan@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 5:57:19 PM | | Subject: | Why DickRod is a garbage coach and why my Wolverines suck monkey c### | | | This is a massive message I sent to a fellow Michigan fan. i want you all to read it. (note: I edited it somewhat):
Look at the success Miles, Coker, Petersen, Beilima, Erickson, etc had in their first season's. Michigan will go winless in 2009, and then fire Dick Fraudriguez. Yeah, that's right. WINLESS in 2009. Michigan returns all 11 starters on offense, but considering our offense sucks anyways, returning all 11 starters really doesn't mean s##t. Then on defense, we only return 5 of 11 starters, and we lose 3 of 4 on the defensive line, and in the special teams, we don't have any good KR's or PR's, and Lopata graduates. Mesko might want to try out at kicker. our incoming freshmen class is stacked with little twigs like Bryce McNeal and Jeremy Gallon. i highly doubt our freshmen QB's can make an immediate impact. Hell, for all I know, they might decommit
Now, lets look at Michigan's schedule, which isn't quite set in stone. We know who Michigan's 8 Big Ten games are against, and we know they play Notre Dame and probably an MAC team at home. the other two games? Beats me.
Notre Dame: Golden Tate and Robert Hughes will have their way again, and with only one starter back on the d-line, ND''s o-line will dominate us again. ND wins it 28-10.
Indiana: its Kellen Lewis's senior year. he will lead the Hoosiers to their first win over Michigan since 1987. Indy wins it 23-21
at Michigan State: the Spartans will be rebuilding in 2009, but they'll still eke out a win over LITTLE brother. 17-14 MSU
at Iowa: they are young this season, but with Shawn Green and everybody back next season, Iowa will be dangerous. Hawkeyes blow us out 31-7
Penn State: 47-11 PSU. Nough said
at Illinois: oh great. the senior year of Juice Williams at Champagne. Illini win this in a 49-21 blowout
Purdue: hmm......I'll give Purdue the win in overtime simply because at this point Michigan's physche will be shattered
at Wisconsin: Wisky has won two straight against us in Camp Randall. make it 3 in a row with a crushing blowout of 35-0
Ohio State: 44-0 buckeyes. Nough said.
Whatever. Its depressing to be a Michigan fan right now, but I'll root for them even if they go 0-12 every year.
This is Michigan. We are the NUMBER 1 college football program of all time. To borrow a line from the Oakland Raiders, we have a "commitment to excellence." I root for the raiders, and let me tell you, Oakland has lost that commitment over the last 5 years, even though Al Davis is doing everything he can to make the Raiders a good ballclub. But his players and his ballclub don't have that commitment. on the other hand, you look at the New York Yankees, another team I root for, and everybody in that organization has a commitment to excellence (even A-Rod). Its this commitment to excellence on all levels that allowed the Yankees to go 89-73 in spite of an injury ravaged season. Yeah, they didn't make the playoffs, but they were determined to win everygame. they had the talent, and they had the coaching. They could have caved in like the Detroit Tigers did and gone 72-90, but they kept on pushing, and that's why they had yet another winning season inspite of all the injuries and adversity
My point is this: patience ISN'T ALLOWED at a team that has a commitment to excellence. there are no off years. there's no such thing as taking a step back to take a step forward. Its WIN NOW all the time. Teams like the Yankees and Detroit Red Wings have this mentality at all levels of the team. Michigan once did, even under Lloyd Carr. They didn't take 2001 off after losing Henson, the A-Train, Terrell, and the entire offensive line. They didn't take 2004 off after losing Navarre, Heisman finalist Perry, two key o-linemen, and several stars on defense (Jeremy Lesuer, Carl Diggs, Larry Stevens, Norman Heuer, Grant Bowman). So guess what my friend: 2008 is NO EXCEPTION!!!!! this is Michigan! We have a commitment to excellence! We have a win now mentality! And now you're telling me that because a foreign coach with a foreign offense is in town, and cause he;'s throwing shitty true freshmen on the field, that I (or any other Michigan fan), should be "patient"? NO F####ING WAY man!!!
Michigan is stacked with talent EVERY SEASON. And based on his track record, we THOUGHT RR would be the coach to max out the potential of the tremendous talent we have. I can't speak for my fellow Michigan fans who called a multi-win season, but I was wrong about DickRod. You can blame a shallow talent pool for RR's failures in season one at West Virginia. But this is Michigan. If Tressell had Michigan's roster, he probably would have won another NC or two at Ohio State. Michigan has consistently outrecruited Ohio State, and yet, its the Buckeyes who have 3 straight Big ten titles and 2 straight outright conference titles. And as for the new system, its called 'adapting to your team." Why can't Michigan run the spread offense they ran in the Capital One Bowl? That's the type of spread offense that fits Michigan personnel! Keep in mind, the spread is like the prostyle: there's a million different versions of it. The spread option is just one version. But Michigan doesn't have the athletes to run RR's spread. So that means RR should ADJUST. But instead, he shoves the spread option down Michigan's throats, and the results have been disastrous. Hell, even when RR DOES get "his athletes," Michigan's offense won't be any good. I told you: stick thin twigs don't succeed unless they are uber-talented. Gallon, McNeal, T-Robinson, Roundtree, Odoms, etc, are all nice athletes, but they are too f###ing small t be gamebreakers at the college level! (more on that latter). In the meantime, let me say that I like the spread just as long as its the right type of spread, and the spread option is the wrong type. RR should go with what works, not to mention what fits his personnel. he has FAILED to do both. The Capital One Bowl offense works (534 yards, 41 points). But RR doesn't use it. And the Capital One Bowl offense fits Michigan's personnel. But RR doesn't use it. RR is the culprit for Michigan's shitty offense, and that's the bottom line.
first year head coaches have immediate success ALL THE TIME. So therefore, i have no patience with RR. But on the other hand, the only freshmen QB I know of who had immediate success was Chad Henne. Even Vince Young looked like the worst passer on the planet in his freshmen season of 2003. There were calls by Texas fans to move Young to TB or WR. But as Young gained experience, he became a gamebreaker (and a legend). I have patience with Threet because he is a redshirt freshmen. Threet is extremely talented, and when he gains experience, he will be an All Big Ten performer. he will not bow down to Forcier and Beaver. When he transferred to Michigan he said to his highschool coach "I'm going to beat out Mallet for that starting job." Threets competitiveness is second to none. And don't even question his raw talent. The guy has got a gifted right arm. With experience, he will have a deadly accurate right arm as well. he's already shown flashes of his stunning accuracy. remember that Td pass to Mathews against ND that was called back? Or that TD pass to Mathews in the last game that WASN'T called back? Yeah, Threet is missing alot of throws, but that's to be expected of a freshmen. With experience, he will be making those throws consistently, and his completion percentage will be in the mid to high 60's. You watch.
if you think Threet is just going to bend over and give the job to Forcier or Beaver, you are dead wrong. He will fight until DickRod declares a winner, and even then, Threet will still be fighting. Threet is a warrior, and a very talented warrior at that. Plus, Threet will have the huge advantage of having a whole season of experience under his belt.
DickRod isn't throwing those true freshmen on the field out of necessity. He's throwing them onto the field because he WANTS to! Because he's shoving this disgusting offense down Michigan's throats!! odoms is starting in the slot when it should be Toney Clemons. Stonum is starting at outside receiver when it should be Junior Hemingway. And even now that Hemingway is hurt, Clemons should be starting on the outside and James Rogers should be starting in the slot!!!! Sam McGuffie (who will be GREAT one day, but isn't ready to be the starter YET) and Michael Shaw are the featured TB's when Carlos Brown, Brandon Minor, and even Kevin Grady should be the featured TB's. But in stead, DickRod is not only throwing less experienced players on the field, but he's throwing less TALENTED players on the field! (McGuffie at tailback being the lone exception). This is a disgrace, and the fact that you and many other delusional Michigan fans are apologizing for DickRod destroying this program makes me want to puke
Our defense is total shit. But what makes you think Shafers players will be any better? Have you seen the profiles of the defensive recruits for the class of 2009? They make mike Hart look like Jerome Bettis!!!!! I'm trying to tell you dude: you need SIZE-on offense AND defense-to win football games. You can't have size AT THE EXPENSE of speed and athleticism, but vice versa, you can't have speed and athleticism at the expense of size!! And the later is what you and DickRod's minions advocate. I've been hearing all this great stuff about how d-lineman like Terrance Taylor and Brandon Graham have lost weight. Well, that's great, cause they have more stamina. But now they are too small to take on big, beefy lineman like Notre Dame and Wisconsin! And if decreased weight=more athleticism, where the f### was that athleticism against Illinois offensive line, which is proportionally even in size to Michigan's defensive line? Michigan's d-line should have dominated Illinois o-line, and yet, we got zero sacks and rarely even got pressure on Juice Williams. We also got zero sacks against ND, a team that gave up 58 a year ago. Last season we sacked ND 9 times and held Juice Williams to 7 carries for 17 yards. Apparently losing all that weight wasn't such a good thing afterall. Michigan's defensive line is now TOO SMALL!!!!!! And don't even mention Brandon Graham. Take away the last two minutes of the Wisconsin game and Graham hasn't been worth a shit. Graham is a 5 star bust, as is most of the Michigan defense.
there's no doubt that Stevie Brown and Brandon Harrison are trash, as are Morgan Trent and Donovan Warren. our secondary is HORRIBLE. I don't think the problem is speed, or instinct. I think that these guys in the secondary are probably thinking too much, cause there's no doubt they are talented, but its obvious they are slow on their feet. That's a result of poor coaching by Shafer and the defensive staff. There's no excuse for thinking instead of letting your instincts take over. That's a mentality that you've GOT to instill in your players, and Shafer has clearly failed to instill that mentality into Michigan's defense, especially the secondary.
Threet has been a solid QB for the most part. the few mistakes are to be expected. Threet is not the reason why Michigan is 2-3 and is heading for a 3-9 season....he's not even close to being the main reason. What are you going to say next season when Forcier and Beaver are going through growing pains as well? are you going to rag on them for being bad passers who can't run the offense? If the spread option was all about the QB running, Michigan would just stick Sam McGuffie back there and be done with it. But in any offense, a QB must have the ability to pass and pass well, and the FACT is, freshmen QB's going through growing pains (often painful growing pains) as freshmen! And that's whether they are good runners or not!!!! I implore you: get of Threets ass and cut him some slack. He's not the problem. DickRod and his staff are the problem
"And this spread offense that RR runs isn't shitty"
Right it isn't shitty. Being ranked 110th in the nation in total offense isn't shitty. being ranked 93rd in scoring offense isn't shitty. being ranked last in the Big Ten in total offense, scoring, and running offense isn't shitty. Hell, even in his "amazing" three year stretch at WVU (2005-2007), this offense only finished 50th in the nation total yards. And they never finished higher then 30th in 2006 or 2007. So much for a great offense. This spread option is one dimensional, and it only scored 40 points a game cause WVU was playing shitty competition. The Big ten is a mediocre conference, but is much better then the Big East, and here in the Big Ten, Northwestern ran the spread option from 2000-2005 (with the same talent pool as WVU) and they only won about 5 games a year. The RIGHT kind of spread offense with TALENTED players wins you lots of football games. Just look at the hybrid spread offenses that Ohio State ran in 2005 and 2006 and that penn state ran in 2005 and is running this season. I'm not against the spread offense if its the RIGHT kind of spread. But this spread OPTION offense is just total garbage. The facts speak for themselves. Here's an excerpt from a message a buckeyes fan sent me. I originally ignored the message, but now I've realized, this guy was absolutely right:
Defenses have begun to solve the spread option; especially a run heavy system (just like RR's)
Really quite simple. Play a cover 1 - 1 safety covering deep ( should anybody miss a tackle), and man on the WR's. So that's 1 FS and 3 CB's. Make sure they play tight, option teams like to throw tons of screens.
Run your traditional 4-3 or better yet, and 3-4.
Blitz your weakside LB all the time or alternate between the weak and strong side. Sometimes both depending on the offensive formation. Then just drop your MLB right into coverage or the middle of the field should their be a slant or QB draw.
Option QB's trust their running first and mostly have happy feet.. - WVU's opposition know that white can't deliver by stepping up into the pocket. And your going to see them exploit this more and more.
Colorado and ECU did just this, except they didnt have to blitz because they're 4 man front applied plenty of pressure.
This is the downfall of this system, either sacrifice the health of your 3 primary offensive weapons (QB, RB & FB) or attempt to turn your trigger man into something he's not ( a passing threat)
And don't tell me to "stop blaming the coaches." Coaching is everything!!!!! History proves this. Very rarely does talent trump good coaching.
Any so called "down year stretch" will be completely self-inflicted. Michigan is IMMUNE to down stretches.
I don't give 2 shits about finishing in the top 5 a decade from now. I care about finishing in the top 5 and winning big RIGHT NOW.
Bill Callahan's transition is a copy of RR's transition. Let me break it down for you: Callahan was a previously successful coach, just like RR. His comes in with an "innovative" offense, just like RR. he shoves it down Nebraska throats, just like RR. The results are disastrous, just like RR (Nebraska's 35 year Bowl streak comes to end in Callahan's first season in 2004). Callahan asks for time, just like RR. Callahan says he needs "his players," just like RR. Callahan gets his players, but STILL the results are disastrous, just like.......well, that part is yet to come for RR. But it will come. You watch. So you see? RR is Michigan's Bill Callahan, and that makes me nauseous!
Terrance Robinson=5'9, 170
Michael Shaw=6'0, 185
Martavious Odoms=5'9, 164
Roy Roundtree=6'0, 154
Ricky Barnum (the star offensive lineman of the class of 2008; the guy DickRod stole from Florida)=6'2, 246
Teric Jones=5'8, 186
Vincent Smith=5'6, 159
Dewayne Peace=6'0, 177
Michael Shofield (the star o-lineman in the class of 2009)=6'6, 272
Anthony LeLota=(a 4 star defensive end)=6'6, 260
Craig Roh ( also 4 star defensive end)=6'5, 230
DeQuinta Jones (a 4 star defensive tackle)=6'2, 265
Brandin Hawthorne (a supposed "linebacker")=6'0, 181
Jeremy Gallon=5'8, 165
And these guys are supposed to be "football players?" What, did RR just decide to recruit a bunch of malnourished kids from Africa? This is pathetic! These little guys won't be remotely close to being effective playmakers on offense or defense!!!!! This is a fact of football: you need brawn if you expect to win lots of games. Unless these guys run 2.90 forty yard dashes (which they don't), its not worth sacrificing all this brawn for an increase in speed!! Give me a Chris Perry, Anthony Thomas, David Terrell, Braylon Edwards, and Jason Avant over any of these skeletons!!! The only way you can succeed when you are tiny is if you are a talent from Mars. Percy Harvin, Noel devine, and Sam McGuffie are all uber-talents. But the fact is, the FAR MAJORITY of these small sticks are NOT uber-talented!!!! They do NOT make for gamebreakers at the college level!!! At my highschool, we had this starting QB named Jake Goodin. he started on the varsity team for three years (2003, 2004, and 2005). And let me tell you, Jake was an AMAZING athlete. I wish someone from the MHS football program would put up a highlight video of him on youtube, cause his moves in the open field were sick. If you look at how he performed on the field, you would have though major colleges like Michigan and Ohio State would be all over him. But they weren't. why? Well, for one thing, his 40 yard dash (4.61) wasn't the best, but his agility more then makes up for his lack of top line speed. So whats gives? Heres' what: Jake was only 5'11, 175. On the other hand, we had this slot receiver/tailback named Mike Petrucci who also started on the varsity team for three years (2004, 2005, 2006). Petrucci was a good athlete, but he wasn't HALF the athlete that Goodin was. Goodin was our Vince Young, where as Petrucci was our Laurence Maroney. Goodin had better speed then Petrucci (4.61 vs. 4.85). And yet, Petrucci got a fullride scholarship to play at Central Michigan, whereas Goodin only got a fullride scholarship from Division 2 Saginaw Valley state. Petrucci was 6'2, 215. So you see: size matters in football, and bigger players MOST OF THE TIME are better players. RR is bringing in really small players all over the team, and that will bite Michigan in the ass BADLY. ):):):):
I only have patience if its logical for me to have patience. Its logical for me to have patience with a freshmen QB. Its logical for me to have patience when a great head coach (John Beilin) is trying to revive a moribund program (Michigan basketball). Its logical for me to have patience with a team that's sucked for the better of 5 seasons but is always looking to get better (my Oakland Raiders). And its logical for me to have patience when everybody is injured (as was the case with the 2008 New York Yankees). But there is NO LOGICAL reason for me to have patience with DickRod and his staff. NONE.
"we aren't goin to be that national championship team till most likely the year of 2010"
F### 2010. This is 2008. And besides, we will be shit in 2010 as well.
Okay, thats the end of the message. Now, here's how i see the rest of the 2008 season going:
at Penn State: 55-0 Nittney Lions (I think Michigan should forfeit this game. Penn State looks like an NC contendor right now)
Michigan State: 45-3 Spartans (Dantonio is out for revenge, and Dell and Cunningham will probably have a field day on our secondary. Not to mention MSU has a knack for causing turnovers)
at Purdue: 42-14 Boilmakers (once again, Purdue is overrated, but their offense is no fluke)
at Minnesota: 58-21 Golden Gophers (Weber and that spread offesne will find their ways against Michigans overrated defense)
Northwestern: 45-10 Wildcats (the wildcats are my sleeper team in the big ten, and with a 5-0 start, they are vindicating me faith in them. I'll bet you C.J bacher is going to look like Peyton Manning out there against us)
at Ohio State: 66-0 Buckeyes (Tressell goes for two late in the game to solidify Ohio States OWNAGE of Michigan)
Michigan will finish 2-10. The 27-25 win over Wisconsin was the last win of the Dick Fraudriguez era
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Name: | RS
(@faye0rob@verizon.net)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 7:26:32 PM | | Subject: | Complete Fraud | | | Well, we repeat the same mistake that ND did in the 90s. They couldn't wait to run Lou Holtz out of town for that fraud Bob Davie and they are now on there third coach since he left and haven't been the same program since. We are going to suffer the same fate for running Llyod Carr out of town for this complete and utter fraud Rich Rodriquez. We will be wandering in the wilderness of big time college football with football anouncers stating remember when UM was good. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Robert Hope Jr
(hoper58@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/11/2008 9:15:18 PM | | Subject: | Losing to a MAC school --- Bo is turning over in his grave | | | This has got to be the lowest point in Michigan Football, with the pride and history of this program ... to have fallen to this point is simply shameful. Stealing a half ass coach from a non-conference (the big east), and then paying $4,000,000 to WVU to get this clown, it's no wonder our program is in the dirt. RRod has his FAT paycheck, and a new 'big house,' but this one is not the Big House Bo built. There are no rebuilding years for Michigan -- till now. From the U that has brought so many big names to the NFL, the players that RRod has been recruiting will be washing cars instead of winning Super Bowls. Can't wait till they get a real coach that knows how to recruit for the Winningest Program in NCAA history --- that must be such a difficult thing to do. Wonder if Brady wants a new job while he's mending his leg???
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Name: | Dave
(cdavid6723@aol.com)
| | Date: | 10/12/2008 10:10:55 AM | | Subject: | It was over before it started | | | The Rich Rod era was over before it started because Pryor went to OSU... he put all his eggs in one basket and it cost him. | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Campo
(campondk@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/12/2008 5:11:47 PM | | Subject: | All you bandwagon fans plz don't comeback in the future | | | Watch...after this year, or in a couple of years, if and WHEN RR brings this program to National heights again, these "Haters" which there are a LOT on here right now, will be jumping back onto the bandwagon... RR first year records were highly talked about before the season began and were in no way any secret. If you hadn't had your head buried in sand, maybe you would have seen that with this scheme, a season is almost sacrificed in turn for future success. By no means do I enjoy seeing losses to the likes of Toledo but I would take a season with no victories if it developed into undefeated seasons, a national title, or a string on one loss seasons in the future.
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Name: | section26
(section26gty@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 12:05:02 PM | | Subject: | Rich Rod should and will stay | | | God some of you people are nuts. Ok let's imagine for a second that Bill Martin holds a press conference tomorrow morning announcing that RR has been let go and that Fred Jackson/Magee/Shafer will finish out the season and that he will make a hire at the end of the year.
Do any of you seriously, truely, honestly believe that a coach who is better than RR (Carroll, Meyer, Stoops, etc. to throw a few names out there) will want to come here knowing that they might only get a half of a season to prove themselves??? Will any relatively decent coach even consider going to a school that has just fired a first year head coach only 6 games into the season based solely on on-the-field performance and not a legal or NCAA violation???
I know some of you don't like RR for whatever reason (killing tradition, running off dozens of players, being a greasy devious hick from WV, kicking every puppy he sees or whatever inherently false claim the mainstream media is making nowadays), but you cannot argue with results. He has had success AT EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL HE HAS COACHED. He won as the coach of a Division II team, as the coordinator at Tulane, as the coordinator at Clemson and as the head coach at WVU (which won 11 games in each of his last 3 seasons btw).
We are sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into athletic facilities, putting us on par or ahead of several Big 10 schools that passed us by years ago in this area. We are recruiting speed and skill at every position and have implemented the S&C program that will build those players according to that philosophy. We are too well funded, too well coached, and have too much talent not to succeed in the future. Just because we have a crappy O-Line and young QB's who are inaccurate and we drop a couple games we should've won, some of you want to jump off the ship. Alabama lost to friggin UL-Monroe last year and Saban was feeling the heat. UL-Monroe put up a BILLBOARD with the score of the game on it. Where is Alabama now?
Thank God that Bill Martin has the common sense to realize that instant gratification is a myth and re-making a football program in the modern era takes more than a month. He won't fire RR, nor should he. Whenever Lloyd got some heat, Martin never even mentioned the possibility of firing, unless an idiot sportswriter brought it up.
For those of you who want to bring back the good ol days - Bo and Mo and Lloyd are gone and they're never coming back. Les Miles is never coming here. It's done, forget about it. Even Lions fans stick by their team after 50 years of being terrible and some of you want to quit on this team after a poor 2-week period (I know some of you will argue that RR has done poorly from day 1, but I don't believe any of you were saying that 2 weeks ago after we beat Wisconsin).
The bottom line is that RR is one of the top 15 coaches in the country, and arguably top 10. I'm not saying that just because I like him, I'm saying it because of what he's done. You cannot deny the success that he had at WVU, especially in his last 3 years. Losing a game to Toledo does not cancel out a decade of his successes. We are inexperienced at every single position of offense and don't have a go-to guy we can depend on, our LB's and DB's are subpar, and the opposing OC's gameplan to take the DL out of the game (did you notice how every Toledo pass was either a rollout or a 3 step drop?) Do you think lining up in the I form all game will make us that much better?
For those who want to get rid of him - Name me someone who is (A) A better coach, (B) Available, and (C) will come here knowing that we gave RR 6 games to prove himself. The answer is NOBODY, unless you want to argue that Brady Hoke, Kirk Ferentz, or Ron English is somehow a better coach. Your knee-jerk reaction is to "fire the coach", but you have no solution to the problem after that. Firing RR would put us from a 1-2 year re-building process to a 3-4 year one at best. Firing him would create 100x more problems that it would solve.
I know 90% of you are rational and intelligent and see the big picture. I know there are some of you who are kinda luke-warm on RR and that's fine. Go ahead and criticize his playcalling and decision making all you want, thats what we do here. But for the love of Zeus give him at least a full couple of seasons before passing judgement. Pete Carroll and Nick Saban were 6-6 their first years at USC and Bama. Bob Stoops and the Vest were 7-5, etc, etc, etc. Don't give me the "we're Michigan, we don't have losing seasons" spiel. Every major program has undergone a transition period in the last 10-20 years. Do you really think just because we're Michigan that we're immune. For those of you who think we're becoming Nebraska, there is one difference - Bill Callihan was a brutal coach who rode Jon Gruden's players to a Super Bowl and never did anything as a coach outside of that. RR has a track record at almost half a dozen different schools.
I know there's nothing I can say or do to convince that irrational 10% of you that the other 90% of us are right, and you've probably already started typing your angry response after reading the title of the thread and not bothering to read anything I've written, but I really don't give a damn. When we're in a BCS Bowl come January 2011 or 2012 at the latest, I will be here and I will say I told you so. If I am wrong, I will still be here, and you can tell me so. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Nascar#1 Fan Go Blue
(jessup@wcc.edu)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 12:22:05 PM | | Subject: | Need to Update Toledo Score | | | Need to update the Toledo score and this guy needs to be fired! Ive never been so mad than watching this guy coach. I mean we should fire hime immedieatly and get Jimmy Johsnon into coach here. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | You are an idiot.
(fire@yourmom.instead.com)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 2:38:38 PM | | Subject: | Give me a break | | | Dude give me a break. Find something better to do with your time instead of setting up retarded web sites asking for someone to be fired. You'll get your 2 minutes of media fame that you're after, then we all hope you'll die in a fire. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | UMDHcky211
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| | Date: | 10/13/2008 4:46:58 PM | | Subject: | Give me a break! | | | This site is a joke. You guys knew this wasn't going to be a good year in the first place. 6 games, and you want a coach fired? This idea of yours is one of the most laughable things I've ever seen. Try something different, and be patient. Check back after the 2010 season. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | A real Wolverine
(conatonm311@comcast.net)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 5:21:00 PM | | Subject: | This site sux | | | Anybody who agrees with this site is a whiny fair weather fan..I dont care if we lose every game this season, that will never stop me from being a michigan fan. So all you people who just started liking Michigan, sit the frick back and shutup! We returned 2 of 12 starters on offense and RRod got like a third of a recruiting class..All the players are pro style players, and the defense was made to defend the pro style offense. The carr era was made to groom players for the nfl, while staying a consistent winning football team...Then Carr started going downhill sense the SEC started winning everything, that was the way we had to go...Because winning at michigan is more important than grooming for the nfl. To adapt to that style of offense we have to recruit for it, which takes years..You people are pathetic, a bunch of couch coaches, just shutup..give him a couple full recruiting classes then come and complain, undoubtedly Les Miles didnt want to come here..Then screw him..We will be fine, so we have one rough year..Even if we lose every game the next two seasons, we WILL STILL BE THE WINNINGEST TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!! Relax. Like the guys not under enough pressure..Look at the recruiting board, we have like the fourth best recruiting class for next year without William Campbell, but you know more than the recruiting sites saying they are all little twigs...Pathetic...grow up if you are a real wolverine... | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | A U of M fan
(WwwDotMichiganDotCom@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 5:53:47 PM | | Subject: | Why is it one or the other? | | | Why does complaining about RR mean we are not Michigan Fans?
I love the school, always have, and always will!
But, apparently I am not allowed to disagree with decisions the Administration or the coach makes. I am a real fan, I watch every game, I care what happens to the team and I agree that RR is not the solution so I guess you TRUE fans can sit there and think the same thing and not say it out loud and consider yourself true fans, I guess I just don't live up to your standards. Screw you.
Fire Rich Rodriguez! There I said it too!
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Name: | Justin Quinn
(quinn1341@boston-redsox.net)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 6:26:34 PM | | Subject: | RRod has to go | | | If you haven't started this website I would have because I'm sick of Rodriguez. How could someone be this stupid. I frowned on this when they were just discussing hiring Rodriguez, and from what I've seen, my thoughts have been validated. I don't like this offense, don't want this offense. It's not going to work, especially with players that aren't capable of running it. The best thing on this Michigan team is Sam McGuffie. FIRE RODRIGUEZ!!! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Spartan Fan
(BigTenfanseverywhere@BigTen.org)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 7:14:49 PM | | Subject: | Please Don't fire DickRod! | | | I'm sure that Spartans and Buckeyes and Nittany Lions and Hawkeyes, and Wildcats, etc. would all agree that we don't want DickRod to go anywhere. Please stop talking about firing the "new" John L. Smith of the Big Ten. You just need to give him time, a lifetime contract would do!
Don't fire DickRod! We all think he's great! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | John Smith
(john@adelphia.net)
| | Date: | 10/13/2008 7:17:45 PM | | Subject: | Rich is bringing down our Program | | | I've been a season ticket holder for 20 years so dont give me this fair-weather crap.
Rich Rod is not the right person. He shitty coach that got lucky that Pat White made him look good at WV. HE Cant beat a 1-4 MAC team. AT HOME!!!!!!
He is making us look like fools and is ruining this Traditioned Program.
FIRE HIM!!! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | WVU Fan
(@wvufan@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 7:28:16 AM | | Subject: | Fraud Rod | | | As a Mountaineer fan, I can say Rich Rod's success only happened due to one player: "PAT WHITE". Before he started playing Pat, Rod didn't put up W's. Rich Rod should not get any credit for all his success with the spread offense. Several WVU fans watch these Michigan games hoping for Rich Rod to lose, only because the way he left Morgantown. The big time pressure is on him now, in which he can not handle. I don't see him winning more than 2 games on the rest of your schedule. Word is down here, he's the top candidate for the Clemson job, his dream job. At Morgantown, he said the only reason he'd leave WVU at the time was for this dream job of his. This website is all over the local news in West Virginia, as well as the national news I saw this morning.
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Name: | New Clemson Head Coach Rich Rodriguez
(Blackdog_91@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 9:11:53 AM | | Subject: | Rich Rod to head to South Carolina | | | Clemson SC - Sources from the athletic department at Clemson University say that Athletic Director Terry Don Phillips has already contacted Rich Rodriguez through his agent Mike Brown and is reportedly drawn up a lucrative offer to join as head coach of the Clemson Tigers as soon as the current season is finished. When asked Coach Rodriguez implied that he would love to come "back home" but is leaving his options open. After started a dismal career at Michigan, Coach Rodriguez is having second thoughts about being a member of the Wolverine community.
TO SEE MORE INFORMATION GO TO CUTIGERS.COM | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | afortuna
(afortuna@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 11:38:11 AM | | Subject: | intelligence | | | Not surprisingly, you mention being a Michigan fan your whole life, but don’t actually mention having graduated from there. Frankly, for a site this stupid, I’d be surprised if you had a high school degree.
It’s called taking 1 step back to take 2 steps forward. So please take some Ritalin, have some patience, or stop being a “fan” of my team.
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Name: | Mitchell
(kirkm_24@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 11:44:41 AM | | Subject: | SERIOUSLY | | | I have a huge problem with this whole website i mean Rich Rod is a good coach and he will get things turned around. I mean just look at what West V. has done this year they have only scored over 30 points once and that was in their first game against Villinova. Last year at through 6 games West V. scored over 30 points in 5 of those games and scored over 40 points in 5 of those games. The offence is almost exactly the same roster. Also the second half ajustments point is just wrong. I mean they almost came back in the 2nd half against Utah (14th Nationally now) and came back to beat Wisconsin. Also in the Ill. game until Juice broke that long run because a linebacker missed his assignment and gap or Juice wouldnt hae got that first down they were with in stiking distance of that came because they game back in the second half. And in the Toledo game Michigan had to play Nick instead of Threat. Threat Always plays better in the second half if he plays i think they win the Toledo game but he was out and Nick had to play adn played ok but not as good as Threat could have because it took Nick the whole third Q to find his rythme and get into the game flow.
Michigan will be a Power and win a National Title under Rich Rod!!!! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Adam
(schellhammer1812@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 11:48:03 AM | | Subject: | Rich Rod | | | You people are crazy. Lets look at the facts here.
1- New Coach
2- New Offense
3- FRESHMAN EVERYWHERE!
4- Lost almost the whole offense to the NFL/being panzies!
Look at what other 1st year coaches have done (Tressel, Carrol) in their 1st seasons and the turn around they made. What RR is doing is 100% harder than what they had to do for 2 reasons.
1- He is bringing in a whole new Offense to learn
2- It is much harder to win now then it was when they started.
You need to relax and give the man 1-2 years to recruit HIS players for HIS Offense, not LLYODS playes for LLYODS offense! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Rich Rod to Clemson
(Blackdog_91@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 2:05:35 PM | | Subject: | Rich Rod to head to South Carolina is a fake!!!! I repeat a fake. | | | The post "Rich Rod to head to South Carolina" is a fake, a farce, a fantasy news story that is only a dream. It was written in fun and is just a dream. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I just thought it would be a little fun to dream. This story is in now way affiliated to CUTIGER.COM or any other Clemson website. However, if you decide to fire Coach Rodriguez IN MY OPINION he would be welcomed as Head Coach at Clemson.
AGAIN THE POST "RICH ROD TO HEAD TO SOUTH CAROLINA" IS A FAKE FAKE FAKE NEWS STORY IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED TO CUTIGERS.COM. IT WAS JUST FOR FUN :P | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Joe
(hawleyj2@msu.edu)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 2:26:27 PM | | Subject: | laughable | | | I love how this forum says at the top "this forum is run by Michigan fans", because it obviously is not. Rich Rod started 3-8 at WVU his first year and I don't think those fans were calling for his head after he took them to all those BCS games. A michigan coach will never be fired. You say that this site is an opinion site...your opinion is flat out wrong. This site is pathetic in every aspect. Grow up.
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Name: | Spartan fan
(JOSE@comcast.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 2:52:04 PM | | Subject: | U OF M SUCKING SO BAD | | | HAHAHHAHAHAHA i feel so bad for all you losers that are michigan fans. not really though i am a life long state fan and its about time u guys sucked so bad. poor coaching choice on your part. U should of got coach D oh wait thats right he was already taken by what should be called the only real school in michigan MSU. U bring a coach in that brings a system that is foreign to U of M let alone big ten football. I have to say the only reason u won last year was due to money im surprised at how much u had due to paying to APP State to lose to them. HAHA agian that money that was left over was to get mannigham out of trouble so he could play "drugy" and u all know its true. And what is up with that gay mascot of yours atleast we have something important and national know and at one time was on tv. so i you will sit back and cry when you lose to your little brother this year.
GO SPARTANS! WOLVERINES SUCK U KNOW WHAT?
On the banks of the Red Cedar
Is a school that's known to all
Its specialty is winning
And those Spartans play good ball
Spartan Teams are never beaten
All through the game they fight
Fight for the only colors
Green and White
Go right through for MSU
Watch the points keep growing
Spartan Teams are bound to win,
they're fighting with a vim
Rah! Rah! Rah!
See their team is weakening
We're going to win the game!
Fight! Fight! Rah, Team, Fight!
Victory for MSU
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Name: | Jamal
(jamal67gh@aol.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 3:45:31 PM | | Subject: | Who ever made this site is an IDIOT | | | All this fire RR talk is nonsense. We are halfway through his first season, and he has an awesome recruiting class coming along for next season. All you have to do is look at last year's Minnesota team to learn some patience. They were 1-11 last year under first year coach Tim Brewster, going 0-8 in the Big Ten. But he got a great recruiting class in (#17 nationally), and are now 6-1. They are bowl eligible only seven games into the season. You MUST give a coach at least two seasons before you can fully judge them, if not more. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | The Banker
(banker@googleAds.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 4:06:11 PM | | Subject: | Idiot? | | | You call the people who are running this site idiots but they are laughing at you…
They are probably making a lot of money from all the ads you see on the page. Whether they are fans or not they are laughing at all of you all the way to the bank.
So, keep coming back and keep calling them idiots, I know who real the smart ones are.
Keep it up who ever you are; I will be here to watch. P.S. the Les Miles countdown is funny.
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Name: | egrohoske
(egrohoske@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 6:52:48 PM | | Subject: | Contract extension for Rodriguez | | | Rich is doing a great job, he makes Roid Carr look like a football coach, maybe you could talk Rich into hiring John Cooper as an assistant, I don't know which Michigan blunder makes me laugh the most, Appalachian State or Toledo, No pity here from me, just lots of laughter, should Michigan get lucky and beat my BUCKEYES it would feel like we got beat by Findlay College or Bluffton college, it would feel like that because Michigan has no respect from anyone, but not to worry, after the game this year, it will be 5 in a row for the good guys, you need to worship Rich, after all how many millions did your university pay to bail Rich out of his contract, and save the garbage about he inherited bad players from Carr, that's BS, if you can't beat a MAC team in The Big Outhouse, that's a lack of ability to coach, I'm gonna start my own site WWW.CONTRACTEXTENSIONFORRODRIGUEZ.COM | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Rob
(wittemgt1@aol.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 6:58:24 PM | | Subject: | Fire Him Now | | | You guys wanted him bad enough to pay my Alma Matter 3.5 million. Thats a lot to pay for an unloyal, cry-baby control freak. If you do fir hime you owe him 4 million, that would be a big price tag.
Laughing in Morgantown!! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Joe
(pr1nce_charm1ng@sbcglobal.net)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 7:41:38 PM | | Subject: | This is pathetic... | | | When I first saw mention of this website on Around the Horn on ESPN, I laughed. This has to be a bad joke, seriously. Rich Rodriguez is a damn good coach. Like others have mentioned he started off terribly in his first year at WVU and then he took them to heights they had never seen before. Give the guy a chance seriously. He's playing with Lloyd Carr's players, most of whom would NEVER excel in his spread offense. Steven Threet is no Pat White and Brandon Minor is no Steve Slaton. He has a super recruiting class coming in next year with two count 'em TWO spread Quarterbacks next year along with players that will excel in his system. Also I have to mention that he has ALREADY GOTTEN TWO TOP WIDE RECEIVERS FOR THE 2010 class. So when Michigan is in Big Ten title contention next year and contending for a National Championship in 2010, I really hope you people delete this site. Thanks. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Irish Fan
(irishfan@webeatyou.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 8:30:02 PM | | Subject: | Love the site | | | To the three knuckleheads who created the site. I accept your apology. Like I said we got beat by a ranked team in a close game but Toledo??????? Can we make a new site where we promoterod? Just a thought from a ND fan!!! | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Dylan
(hancoale@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 9:33:54 PM | | Subject: | RichRod | | | honestly whoever made this site needs to check themselves. Honestly, six games into his tenure and your ready to fire him? You have to remember he has no players that fit his scheme and he has fricken steven threet with his blazin 5.2 forty speed playin qb. And also, when have you seen someone come in the first year and completely dominate? never. Look at Saban at Alabama, lost to Louisiana-Monroe at home but now ranked at #2. They never set up a fire saban site. They had faith in him and look what happened. Honestly, this site is an embarassment to Michigan football
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Name: | fire this bum
(lose2toledo@home.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 10:11:43 PM | | Subject: | great coach???? | | | LMAO @ saying rodriguez is a great coach.. when did west virginia ever win a national championship? maybe bowl games are great for west virginia, but this aint west virginia.. this is michigan.. championship or bust.. that 9-4 bullshit wont cut it | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Mike
(mringle@gmail.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 10:53:00 PM | | Subject: | Give it time | | | Seriously, six games is not enough to build a team. Michigan hired Rodriguez in an attempt to look to the future of college football (or at least what is viewed to be the future.) Not only does he not have the players to fit the system he runs, which should have been apparent to YOUR people hiring him. But he also lost some talented players that jumped ship, for better or for worse.
If they do not show improvement by next year I can see losing some faith. But right now they are having a lot more growing pains than anyone expected. It's how things happen sometimes.
Yes, the loss to Toledo was awful. But I think they are better than their record truly indicates. It's what makes college football exciting. Sometimes the "lesser" team wins. Deal with it, move on, realize that you couldn't do what these coaches and kids do. Otherwise you'd be too busy worrying about that rather than trying to fire a coach who hasn't even been given a chance. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | goblue
(goblue@mgoblue.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 11:25:10 PM | | Subject: | Mid-Season Assessment | | | In my misery Sunday - call it therapy - I wrote out my personal thoughts on the first half of the football season. I've been a Michigan fan since 1979...when I was in junior-high school and Johnny Wangler was passing to Anthony Carter. I still get goose bumps when I hear recordings of Ufer's call.
Preface - Before the season started, everyone was saying that this could be Michigan's first year w/out a bowl game in 35 seasons or winning record in 41 seasons. I defended the program and said, yeah, they'll be down - the offense is young, but maybe a bit arrogantly, I said this is Michigan, they don't rebuilt, they reload. Yeah, there is going to be a new system in place, but hey, these kids have never started (on offense), so this will be okay - they are learning the system Rod wants, not relearning a system and leaving their comfort zone.
First, I figured the defense would have to be the heart of the team, keeping the offense in range to score, and maybe putting a few points on the board themselves. Second, though inexperienced, I believed the offense would grow and gel over the course of the season. That's the sign of a good coach, right? I was also secure w/ special teams because it's not like you're going to line up in the spread to kick a FG - Lopata played last year. Given this, I conceded, we'll win the games we should, we'd loose a few and we won't be in a BCS bowl game, nor even a non-New Year's Day bowl (like the Alamo). My projection was for a 8-4 season. The losses would be to Wisconsin, Penn State and Purdue. The wild card games, where me might loose 1 of the following 3 were Illinois, Notre Dame and Utah. Illinois was the one I felt we'd most likely loose. I knew Ron Zook was doing a nice job of assembling a winning program and Juice Williams would be a huge threat.
Also, we'd win the games we should - there is no reason why we wouldn't beat a moderate to weak team - Miami of Ohio, Toledo... Sandwiched between Penn State and Purdue (which I projected to be losses), I figured the Michigan State game would define the season - how well do they bounce back and get their worst loss of the season off their back. I missed that mark.
To recap the first half of the season (sorry for the painful reminders)...
Utah - neither side (offense/defense) looked ready to play. This bothered me. For all of those who cried Fire Lloyd because his teams were not ready to go, this same story, different coach.
Miami - Big improvements on both sides of the ball...my theory was working - they'll win the games they should.
Notre Dame - turnovers! We gave that win to them w/ our sloppy play...need to work on that.
Wisconsin - What a gutsy 2nd half! I thought this may put us on the right track for the rest of the season.
Illinois - The offense picked up where it left off against Wisconsin--hurray. I didn't mind being behind at the half based on the Wisconsin game, but then....it was a total defensive breakdown and an offensive nightmare. We gave up more points than in any other game except the 1991 FSU game and more yardage than in the history of the stadium. Illinois was prepared, we were not. Fire Rod!
Toledo - This was to be an easy win--a confidence builder for these young kids. Toledo had only 1 win - vs. EMU - gave up an average of 35 points per game and had been unable to score a TD in their last two games. Their TD vs. Michigan was on a turnover and the D held the team to 6 pts, despite giving up over 300 yds of total offense. The offense is regressing. They played better against Wisconsin and in the 1st half vs. Illinois. I'm frustrated because I don't think the coaches know how to turn this around at this point! They've got to be scratching their heads. Is this team that mentally devastated? Where is the execution? When will they gel offensively?
Final thoughts -
1 - Many people are debating if Rod should change the system. The team has lined up in the spread and in the power I...neither has yielded consistent results. I realize these guys are young and inexperienced, but they are not playing to their potential - that is coaching.
2 - When Tubby Smith took over the dismal Minnesota basketball team for the 2007-2008 season, he said that given the players on his team, he had to find a way to exploit their strengths and downplay their weaknesses. He needed a system and game plan that would work for this group of guys. He said they wouldn't be fighting for a Big 10 title or even an invite to the Big Dance, but they'd beat the teams they are supposed to and be competitive in the others. To his credit, he did just that. He gave his players confidence and they even won a few games against tougher opponents. This is what needs to happen in Ann Arbor. Michigan needs to beat the teams they are supposed to - Utah, Miami, Notre Dame, Toledo,.... I don't mind a loss in a close game against Illinois, Penn State or Michigan State...key word - close - they have to be competitive.
3 - Finally, Bo once said...when you struggle, you have to break down the game. First, you win your downs, when you are on offense, you have to make positive yardage. When you win enough downs, you win the series...resulting in points on the board. When you win enough series, you've won the game. Defensively is much the same - you have to stop the other team ever down. You win the series when they punt or have a turnover. You keep them off the scoreboard and you're offense doesn't have to work so hard. Most times, the team with the best defense will win. It's football 101 - practice, execution and preparation...(that's me, not Bo) and we're failing miserably.
Go Blue!
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Name: | Jeff (Hawaii)
(boyerj4@hotmail.com)
| | Date: | 10/14/2008 11:48:12 PM | | Subject: | Fire the Site creator | | | I disagree with you completely on firing RRod and will wait till UofM actually has a Division 1 QB before getting critical of RRod's coaching... but seriously this is 2008 when making a website that looks good is not difficult at all... and this is what you come up with? Really??? This is the best you can do? I've seen better work out of a mentally challenged 12 year old with the one arm and 20% vision out of both eyes. If you really are associated with UofM in an academic way I am scared for our future. Did they start letting MSU applicants into UofM?
If you're going to make a dumbass site at least make it look like you've seen a computer before. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | FredC
(freddycg56@aol.com)
| | Date: | 10/15/2008 12:19:04 AM | | Subject: | Some people are idiots | | | Is the season worse than anyone could have predicted? Yes.
Is losing to Toledo at home embarrassing? Yes.
Are we playing with less experience on offense than at any time in the last 30 + years? I'm pretty sure.
Has Rich Rod proven in the past that he can win games as a college head coach? Yes
Has RichRod's teams struggled in it's first year of his system? Yes
Does it seem we're having success in recruiting? Early to tell, but yes, so far.
I'm not sure these statements can be debated, maybe some of you will find a way though. My point is, this guy was brought in to change the culture, and change takes time. He runs a system that, with the right players, gives Ohio State fits. Those players are coming, our inexperience will turn into experience, and the culture change that RichRod was hired for, will happen. His track record proves it.
Speaking of track records, Weiss has ZERO head coaching experience, at ANY level. Can't compare RichRod to Weiss.
Carroll had zero college coaching experience, was fired 2 times in the NFL for sucking, and USC fans were PISSED at his hire. Very hard to compare the 2.
Nebraska? Really? From Solich, to Callahan? I need to explain that to some of you?
The only comparison that makes any sense to me, is Urban Meyer. A proven winner (Utah and BG), with the same "gimmicky" offense (wich has won him a Sears trophy by pounding OSU, and a Heisman qb). The major difference between the 2 was that Meyer walked in with Chris Leak, a former 5 Star, Parade All American at the qb spot with 2 years of experience and RichRod starts out with Threet, Sheridan, and Cone battling for reps. Big difference.
Change takes time. Or, at least give him time to see if change worked. Not midway through the season because you think 3-3 is so much better than 2-4 in the long run. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Robert Hope Jr
(hoper58@yahoo.com)
| | Date: | 10/15/2008 2:15:09 AM | | Subject: | rrod supporters --- because everone needs a jock strap | | |
Can't believe how many 'Michigan' fans are riding the coaches' jock. Someone takes 30 seconds to voice their opinions building a web page, and you get upset as though they just screwed your mom. I think that this site is pretty funny --- obviously nothing to get your panty's in a bunch over. Besides --- how many of you are still Michigan Basketball fans??? They've been great lately --- they haven't been relevant in more than a decade. You might want to reconsider which side of this debate you truly want to be on especially if Football goes down the same path .... Heck, Michigan might have to schedule Div III teams in order to have a cake schedule for RRod. App State, Toledo, too tough for Michigan -- how about Maranatha Baptist at the Big House -- show your pride then...
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Name: | Mark
(twtbass@gmail.com)
| | Date: | 10/15/2008 2:43:15 AM | | Subject: | Just My Opinion | | | I see the debate on this forum and I truly understand and appreciate both sides of the argument. In my opinion, I think we need to be patient with the change and give Rich his chance to bring this program back to greatness. We all know what he has done with much more inferior programs. West Virginia was absolute garbage before he arrived. There was no football program before Rodriguez, and suddenly players like Pat White and Steve Slaton chose to be Mountaineers rather than Bulldogs, Gators or Tigers. Last year, the team Rich built was a win away from the National Championship game. If you recall, last year, our big blue lost to a division 1-AA team at home while ranked #5 in the nation. We may have the worst start to a season in forty years but at least we have lost those games to division 1-A teams. Losing to a mid level MAC team is terrible, but we have seen much worse. I want to win as much as the next guy but I learned a long time ago that winning long term is much more important than winning now, especially in college football.
Michigan is an elite program. We will always get great players. Imagine the players that Rich Rod will attract in the coming years. Imagine a Pat White or Noel Devine wearing the maize and blue and the winged helmet, a home run threat like Steve Slaton singing the Victors to the student section after a big win against MSU. If it can happen at West Vagina, it can happen at Michigan. We know what this program is capable of, and we must remain confident.
Nearly 100 years ago an innovator from West Virginia arrived in Ann Arbor. Fielding Yost changed the game forever. He created modern day offense, the linebacker position and co created the "bowl game" concept. He would also coach a shutout victory in that very first Rose Bowl game. He won four straight national championships and coached one of the greatest dynasty's in college football history. His teams went on to win 56 straight football games.
If Rich Rodriguez can do just half of what the legendary Yost did at this prestigious university, they will all once again be "hailing the victors."
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Name: | Greg Rentz
(grentz@hotmail.com)
| | Date: | 10/15/2008 2:58:20 AM | | Subject: | You're an idiot and not a true Michigan fan | | | Who ever put this site up is not a true Michigan fan. Who cares about the 33 year straight bowl steak. O good lets get Lloyd Carr back and we can go between 8-4 and 10-2 every year and never compete for a National title I would rather have 2 seasons of mediocracy and in 2 season start competing for National Title than go back to what Lloyd Carr was building before which was a lot of Capital One Bowls. Winning the Capital One Bowl is like being the smartest kid with down syndorme.
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